How do you resolve a "perceived" problem of a characteristic function. I don't think that is a very good suggestion. Just my 2 cents.
surge forward when braking
guys, i was driving towards a round about the other day. as usual, i will slow by car down by tapping on the brakes.
tapping on the brakes usually activates the Traction brakes. which charges the battery.
however, i hit a bumpy patch of the road.
suddenly, i lost all braking from traction brakes. my car surged forward (as if there were no brakes at all).
i almost crashed in to the roundabout.
help!!!
tapping on the brakes usually activates the Traction brakes. which charges the battery.
however, i hit a bumpy patch of the road.
suddenly, i lost all braking from traction brakes. my car surged forward (as if there were no brakes at all).
i almost crashed in to the roundabout.
help!!!
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Some of the contributors to this topic are alluding to potentially life-threatening circumstances relating to the braking systems of their cars. I am surprised that an issue as critical as malfunctioning brakes does not prompt these owners to have their braking systems checked out by a qualified technician. However, I believe they will find their perceived problems with the brakes are no more than the normal characteristics of an ABS braking system operating under different conditions. Clear now?How do you resolve a "perceived" problem of a characteristic function. I don't think that is a very good suggestion. Just my 2 cents.
Well said. I just think your statement may prompt some people with the perception of safety issues may demand a resolution that cannot be made at the dealership level. It is an engineering anomaly if you will. That's all. Once again, your "surprised" statement does indeed reflect my thoughts also.
Some of the contributors to this topic are alluding to potentially life-threatening circumstances relating to the braking systems of their cars. I am surprised that an issue as critical as malfunctioning brakes does not prompt these owners to have their braking systems checked out by a qualified technician. However, I believe they will find their perceived problems with the brakes are no more than the normal characteristics of an ABS braking system operating under different conditions. Clear now?
I had no knowledge about car mechanism..but I had felt the same problem with my car, To me is just a normal braking happened on a light snow road and dry road, and i'm driving that road everyday.
I really scare out of it, my car just wont stop and keep move forward until it stop by itself. All other car already stop at the red light and my car just skidding..for no reason (that I known).
luckily like other ppl said I can steer still so I turn my car to another lane and finally stopped. I almost hit the big truck in front of me.....
I went to the dealer with also other repairs. I left the car with the dealership for 2 days they clean/check all my brake system for free, they give me a form to fill out and report to them if things happening again. I told them it is a safety issue that make a driver feel very uncomfortable disconcert to drive. This incident happened when the road condition was good, the tires are new.....it occurs unexpected.
They told me they already get Headquarter involved in that issues.
I just never experience anything like this with any other car. it just doesn't feel right.....
it would be great if anyone understand the real cause and let me know what should I do if happen again.
I really scare out of it, my car just wont stop and keep move forward until it stop by itself. All other car already stop at the red light and my car just skidding..for no reason (that I known).
luckily like other ppl said I can steer still so I turn my car to another lane and finally stopped. I almost hit the big truck in front of me.....
I went to the dealer with also other repairs. I left the car with the dealership for 2 days they clean/check all my brake system for free, they give me a form to fill out and report to them if things happening again. I told them it is a safety issue that make a driver feel very uncomfortable disconcert to drive. This incident happened when the road condition was good, the tires are new.....it occurs unexpected.
They told me they already get Headquarter involved in that issues.
I just never experience anything like this with any other car. it just doesn't feel right.....
it would be great if anyone understand the real cause and let me know what should I do if happen again.
Come next winter, get yourself some good (snow flake sign on the sidewall) winter tires. Since it didn't happen on a bright sunny dry day, I am almost certain that the weather played a vital role. You hit a patch of ice when braking, and there was very little friction. The abs brakes tried helping as much as it could by not locking your tires, and you were still able to stop in time.I had no knowledge about car mechanism..but I had felt the same problem with my car, To me is just a normal braking happened on a light snow road and dry road, and i'm driving that road everyday.
I really scare out of it, my car just wont stop and keep move forward until it stop by itself. All other car already stop at the red light and my car just skidding..for no reason (that I known).
luckily like other ppl said I can steer still so I turn my car to another lane and finally stopped. I almost hit the big truck in front of me.....
I went to the dealer with also other repairs. I left the car with the dealership for 2 days they clean/check all my brake system for free, they give me a form to fill out and report to them if things happening again. I told them it is a safety issue that make a driver feel very uncomfortable disconcert to drive. This incident happened when the road condition was good, the tires are new.....it occurs unexpected.
They told me they already get Headquarter involved in that issues.
I just never experience anything like this with any other car. it just doesn't feel right.....
it would be great if anyone understand the real cause and let me know what should I do if happen again.
Winter tires or not, I will also strongly suggest to slow down considerably during snow days (more so during light snow on nearing freezing days. There is high likelihood of black ice formation). The problem is, most people think this is no different than light rain, and continue with their rash driving ways, more so in early winter.
Thanks LoveCT
I drove fairly slow... like ppl will pass by or horn all the time. but I don't have winter tires on at that time.
and I just not a good driving experience at all. Even my husband said that was not normal in ABS..braking, he was beside me at that time.... ...I believe the road condition make a differences...thats way the dealer ask me to fill out the weather road..surrounding condition when happen again, I wish it never happen again.
I drove fairly slow... like ppl will pass by or horn all the time. but I don't have winter tires on at that time.
and I just not a good driving experience at all. Even my husband said that was not normal in ABS..braking, he was beside me at that time.... ...I believe the road condition make a differences...thats way the dealer ask me to fill out the weather road..surrounding condition when happen again, I wish it never happen again.
Add me to the list of people who have found this problem. Sunny days, moderate braking, hit a bump, temporary loss of braking. The temporary loss felt like a short period of complete loss, followed by braking starting again, but not at the same rate as just prior to hitting the bump. To restore the same braking power, I had to push harder on the brakes.
This has happened 3 times in the last 15 months. This has never occurred to me in any other car with ABS brakes over the last 20 years.
Now that I have an accelerometer tracking app on my iPhone, if I come across another such bump, I will try to reproduce the problem while tracking the accelerometer to quantify the issue.
This has happened 3 times in the last 15 months. This has never occurred to me in any other car with ABS brakes over the last 20 years.
Now that I have an accelerometer tracking app on my iPhone, if I come across another such bump, I will try to reproduce the problem while tracking the accelerometer to quantify the issue.
I've talked to prius owners and its perceived to be "working as intended"
The sensation you feel is the temporary loss of the regenerative braking system so it feels like you lose braking power. you simply need to apply more pressure.
The sensation you feel is the temporary loss of the regenerative braking system so it feels like you lose braking power. you simply need to apply more pressure.
You are correct. It is a sensation, but not a loss of braking. Do not panic and keep the same brake pressure applied. No problem. If this was a loss of braking, don't you think the threads would be full of rear ended experiences? Just throwing this out there for the lurkers that might have experienced it one time and want the Internet to answer their questions. No offense to your response.I've talked to prius owners and its perceived to be "working as intended"
The sensation you feel is the temporary loss of the regenerative braking system so it feels like you lose braking power. you simply need to apply more pressure.
Today in Europe Lexus released a huge recall of our car concerning its breaking system !
You were right since day one. I guess your car is really affected !
Bring it back for a repair immediately
You were right since day one. I guess your car is really affected !
Bring it back for a repair immediately
I don't see anything about the CT on the list, just the HS
Toyota Recall: 250K Lexus, Prius Hybrid Cars Have Brake Defect
Do you have link where it says the CT is recalled?
Toyota Recall: 250K Lexus, Prius Hybrid Cars Have Brake Defect
Do you have link where it says the CT is recalled?
I don't think any CT was involved in this unless it was an experimental prototype made in 2009.I don't see anything about the CT on the list, just the HS
Toyota Recall: 250K Lexus, Prius Hybrid Cars Have Brake Defect
Do you have link where it says the CT is recalled?
"The Japanese automaker said Wednesday the global recall would affect 242,000 Prius and Lexus hybrid cars made between March and October 2009."
FAILToday in Europe Lexus released a huge recall of our car concerning its breaking system !
You were right since day one. I guess your car is really affected !
Bring it back for a repair immediately
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The recent recall, in the US, you, has a) nothing to do with the ct200h and b) has nothing to do with the issue being discussed in this thread.
The recent recall, in the US, you, has a) nothing to do with the ct200h and b) has nothing to do with the issue being discussed in this thread.
If you read the description of the issue it does sound familiar to what people here say they are experiencing here.
no biggie...
but you have to think since the CT shares much with the Prius that our cars might be subject to some kind of review.
but you have to think since the CT shares much with the Prius that our cars might be subject to some kind of review.
Except that the recall involving the Prius in the United States was to update the software to shorten the time between the disengagement of the recharging braking and the anti lock braking on Prius models that existed BEFORE THE CT EVEN WAS PUT ON THE MARKET, so if that is the recall being done in Europe now, it should have nothing to do with our cars because the Prius which were manufactured a little before and after the CT came on the market were not included in any recall as far as I remember. I had a Prius for about a year and a half before the CT came on the market and I was right on the border of the cars affected.no biggie...
but you have to think since the CT shares much with the Prius that our cars might be subject to some kind of review.
Correct, the 2010 recall was software related, however this last recall was because Nitorgen gas was getting into the brake fluid possibly at the brake booster pump. People were experiencing braking issues on rough terrain.
If you read through these pages there are people saying this, that while braking when they hit a bump the brakes "go out" (may seem like the car is accelerating because they have their foot on the brake). To me it sounds close to the same issue.
I have experienced the same thing just owning my CT for 2 months. While braking I hit a bump and the brakes seem to not be there all of the sudden and I have to hit the brakes again.
If you read through these pages there are people saying this, that while braking when they hit a bump the brakes "go out" (may seem like the car is accelerating because they have their foot on the brake). To me it sounds close to the same issue.
I have experienced the same thing just owning my CT for 2 months. While braking I hit a bump and the brakes seem to not be there all of the sudden and I have to hit the brakes again.
The recent recall its for a potentially leaking booster. If that happened to you. You would experience longer than expected breaking distances, not the breaks engaging and then diagnosing when going over a bump.
Really, these have nothing to do with each other. And the ct was not even pay off the recall, at all, anywhere, I don't think. This is because, probably, they are built in a location with a different manufacturer/plant for their booster pumps so we're not affected.
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Really, these have nothing to do with each other. And the ct was not even pay off the recall, at all, anywhere, I don't think. This is because, probably, they are built in a location with a different manufacturer/plant for their booster pumps so we're not affected.
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