[col127]

hi all!

been considering purchasing a hybrid and have been looking at the ct200h .

i was wondering about the fuel consumption differences between the ct200h and the prius. i've read that the ct200h uses the same hybrid system as the prius - is that the prius v? it looks more in line with the prius v then the prius 3rd gen.

the prius 3rd gen gets 51/48
prius v gets 44/40

my wife and i were considering the prius c - with fuel consumption of 53/46 - but i like the interior/styling/handling of the ct200h way more (i know - not the same car) - the only drawback is the huge difference in fuel consumption between the ct200h and the prius c... 43/40 vs 53/46...

we'd be doing primarily city driving.

thanks!!

 

[emejay]

The Prius Gen 3, the Prius V, and the ct200h all share the same driveline.There will be variances in their MPG due to weight and aerodynamics and whatever other parametes the mathematical calculation used to calculate MPG entails. Most people posting on here find they get better fuel economy than what is advertised. The biggest variable is who is driving it and the type of driving (i.e. speed, weather, engine temperature, hills, etc.). I have had my ct for 3 months....the worst tank was 52 MPG, the best 58 MPG. Any of the 3 cars listed will give outstanding fuel economy.

The Prius C has a smaller displacement engine, therefore it is likely to give the best MPG performance. If fuel economy is your primary objective, this may be your choice. The Prius V offers a greater storage capability, and the Lexus offers a much higher and luxurious build quality and sportier handling. I choose luxury and sporty.

 

[DBV]

My parents have two regular Prius and I purchased a C200h about 3 weeks ago. My best tank so far was 47 mpg with an equal mix of city and freeway and I have filled up 4 times already (worst tank was around 43 mpg, which was majority of freeway driving). I do think there is no question that the regular Prius will get better mpg as both of my parents average around 52 mpg and that is with mostly freeway driving and without even trying. Where in my CT200h, I really have to pay attention to speed, etc.. to get better mileage. Since you will be doing mostly city driving - you should be ok with mpg with either car. If you were doing a lot more highway driving the regular Prius may be better, as my parents can drive higher speeds 70/75 mph and get a lot better mpg than my CT200h. Maybe this will change as I put more miles on my car, but my Dad bought his Prius the same time I bought the CT200h.

I probably would have purchased a regular Prius Five Series (because of the mpg and space), but there were none available in my area and there were plenty of CT200h's.

Also, as a caveat, I would probably rely on posters who have owned their CT200h much longer than I have, since they have a gone through a lot more tanks, but these are my early impressions on mpg between the two.

 

[BruceG]

I've owned a 2010 Prius model IV for 2 1/2 years. Real world gas mileage (not what the car computer tells you) is right at 46 mpg. Probably 50-50 mix of freeway and city driving, 24K miles.

I've only filled my new ct200h once (new car) and I got 43 - again that's real world, car computer said 48.

Bruce

 

[abqpete]

I was concerned about the same thing, trying to understand the huge difference in fuel numbers for the same drivetrain. I was given a CT200h loaner car and drove it the same way as my 2010 Prius. Whereas my 27K mile Prius was getting about 57mpg (US), the CT200h gave me about 53mpg (56 indicated). I bought a new one the same day and sold my Prius a few days later. I would say that you will get slightly less than what you would get in a Prius.

 

[danmangto]

It all depends on your driving styles/habits. In my CT200H, I got, real world, not computer... 47 miles per gallon the first tank and 45 miles per gallon the 2nd tank which is better than the EPA sticker numbers. This tank I should get better than 47mpg, time will tell. I do about 50% highway and 50% city driving.

 

[danmangto]

I was concerned about the same thing, trying to understand the huge difference in fuel numbers for the same drivetrain. I was given a CT200h loaner car and drove it the same way as my 2010 Prius. Whereas my 27K mile Prius was getting about 57mpg (US), the CT200h gave me about 53mpg (56 indicated). I bought a new one the same day and sold my Prius a few days later. I would say that you will get slightly less than what you would get in a Prius.

The CT200h weighs about 200 pounds heavier than the Prius and has worse aerodynamics. .29 vs .25 CD. The tires are more aggressive on the CT200H as well. P215 45 17. I think you can get the P215 45 17 on only the top of the line Prius 5?

 

[col127]

thanks for the info - very helpful. it's good to know that the ct has potential for that kind of MPG - amazing! is your driving more highway/city ?

what have people's experiences been with highway MPG? planning to take a couple long road trips - if getting high 40s, even into the 50s for highway MPG is common/doable - that'd be amazing!

The Prius Gen 3, the Prius V, and the ct200h all share the same driveline.There will be variances in their MPG due to weight and aerodynamics and whatever other parametes the mathematical calculation used to calculate MPG entails. Most people posting on here find they get better fuel economy than what is advertised. The biggest variable is who is driving it and the type of driving (i.e. speed, weather, engine temperature, hills, etc.). I have had my ct for 3 months....the worst tank was 52 MPG, the best 58 MPG. Any of the 3 cars listed will give outstanding fuel economy.

The Prius C has a smaller displacement engine, therefore it is likely to give the best MPG performance. If fuel economy is your primary objective, this may be your choice. The Prius V offers a greater storage capability, and the Lexus offers a much higher and luxurious build quality and sportier handling. I choose luxury and sporty.

 

[col127]

ah, thanks for that info - nice to hear. i've heard a lot about pulse and glide techniques - is that what you did to get similar MPG?

I was concerned about the same thing, trying to understand the huge difference in fuel numbers for the same drivetrain. I was given a CT200h loaner car and drove it the same way as my 2010 Prius. Whereas my 27K mile Prius was getting about 57mpg (US), the CT200h gave me about 53mpg (56 indicated). I bought a new one the same day and sold my Prius a few days later. I would say that you will get slightly less than what you would get in a Prius.

 

[danmangto]

ah, thanks for that info - nice to hear. i've heard a lot about pulse and glide techniques - is that what you did to get similar MPG?

For me...I get better than the EPA sticker gas mileage and I don't do the pulse-glide/hyper mile thing, I drive it like a regular car, but I drive a little slower, slightly slower acceleration, but still above the speed limit, LOL!

Otherwise some of these hypermiler/pulse glide people can create road rage. I had a Prius pull right out in front of me and go like a turtle and then he proceeded to go about 10mph under the 55mph limit.. lovely. I could get 60mpg if I did that too... LOL!

 

[lostchild]

For me...I get better than the EPA sticker gas mileage and I don't do the pulse-glide/hyper mile thing, I drive it like a regular car, but I drive a little slower, slightly slower acceleration, but still above the speed limit, LOL!

Otherwise some of these hypermiler/pulse glide people can create road rage. I had a Prius pull right out in front of me and go like a turtle and then he proceeded to go about 10mph under the 55mph limit.. lovely. I could get 60mpg if I did that too... LOL!

I get slightly over the sticker MPG also, and I don't do pulse and glide. I am driving in Sport Mode full time. As soon as I start the car, I put it in Sport Mode. I drive 75 to 80 mph on the freeway if traffic allows. I am driving it like a non-hybrid and I still getting around 44 mpg which is not too bad.

 

[clever chimp]

Another think to consider, Lexus stated the 2013 ES hybrid will get 40 MPG...imagine with the same engine fitted into CT. CT is lighter, we might be getting a more powerful CT with the same MPG as current version of CT...that one might be dubbed as CT300h. Then the F-Sport thing might be more then looks.

 

[abqpete]

The CT200h weighs about 200 pounds heavier than the Prius and has worse aerodynamics. .29 vs .25 CD. The tires are more aggressive on the CT200H as well. P215 45 17. I think you can get the P215 45 17 on only the top of the line Prius 5?

I should have mentioned that I had the top Prius model (Five) with the larger tires and was heavier also due to all the additional equipment.

 

[abqpete]

ah, thanks for that info - nice to hear. i've heard a lot about pulse and glide techniques - is that what you did to get similar MPG?

Yes. I use that technique when there are no other cars around. On the freeway I get about 50mpg (calculated) by staying in the right lane and not exceeding the speed limit. The fuel economy seems to take a bigger hit the faster you go. My car is still new so I expect the fuel economy to improve when it is fully broken in.