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I'm about to purchase a CT 200h & am trying to figure out what add-ons to get. My first thought was to get the NAV package - nice to have one built in to the system, plus it does look cool coming out of from its recessed 'home'.

BUT, as I read & looked further, there are some things that require a subscription (XM traffic & such) after one year, to the tune of ~$260 annually. I'm wondering what this stuff actually is and is it worth a couple hundred bucks a year to maintain? Or should I just get a new off-the-shelf GPS device (like Garmin or Magellan, et. al.) for roughly $200 which stuff like traffic updates are included.

Anyone have this & can shed some first-hand knowledge on the subject? How about any other package? [Premium Audio is another I was looking at.]
 

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Happy with Nav.

I have a Starfire Pearl CT200h with the Navigation system. The flip up screen is nice and bright and provides a great deal of additional information other than the navigation maps. For instance your cell phone. Your contacts and speed dials are easily visible and accessible on the screen. Radio station presets are organized in file groups of 6 by name and frequency number. If a song is playing on the radio you can see information about the song name and artist.
Phone answering is great. With Bluetooth you answer right though a steering wheel control on the right. Voice dialing by name or number also is done through the car's interface.
The screen also shows interesting information about the hybrid system and shows graphs of your mileage over time.
The navigation system itself is pretty nice. You can store multiple addresses. The screen dims for night driving. There is information on distance to destination and time to go. Turn by turn directions are provided. A high end Garmin or Tom Tom may have a slight edge on screen information like speed monitoring that changes to red if you are 5 miles over the speed limit on many roads.
For the "Cool Factor" the flip up screen can't be beat in my opinion.
All the controls are via a joy stick by your right hand. No screen touching necessary.
Plus with the Navigation system you get the back up camera that gives almost a fish eye view behind you. Very useful s the back window is small with limited view.
If you don't continue the XM radio after the 3 month trial you lose the traffic notification part. That is an extra cost on the XM package anyway. I'm not sure how useful it is as I have gotten stuck in traffic and the traffic sensor has everything clear. XM wants about $4.00 extra a month for the traffic in addition to the $12.95 monthly charge. You save a little if you go for a year or more prepayment.
The Navigation system MSRP on my invoice was $2445 plus it upgrades the audio system for another $1100. More speakers, 6 CD changer (wish it was a 40GB hard drive instead)
So the add ons for these conveniences is $3545. Plus Lexus probably has more charges after the free year with Lexus Enform and destination assist call in to an operator (never used it) if you want to keep it.
It all depends what is important to you. I have a Tom Tom in an old Honda pilot. Yes it's nice but you have the wire running into the cigarette lighter and it just doesn't look great perched on my dashboard or suction cupped to the windshield. Plus I always to reach and touch the Tom Tom screen if I want to change something.
I opted not to get the leather package and went with the Nulux instead and splurged for the Navigation and sound systems.
If you don't want to look at the screen press a button and it flips down. The default is for the screen to always come up when you start the car.
I never had a car with built in Navigation and after many years of driving I wanted it. It was not something I was willing to give up.
I have no doubt you will really like the Navigation System. It just depends on your preferences.
Hope this helps.
 

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Very informative description of the nav features rehab ax. Thank you.
 

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We don't have nav and it's hard to justify as a value option. 99% of the time we will not need the actual nav feature.

We do miss the phone address book feature but voice dialing is pretty good.

I have nav on my Z4 but it came with the car in the showroom.

I wouldn't pay the premium Lexus and other manufacturers get for nav.

I use nav apps on my iPhone.
 

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i think it's pretty much limited to the "cool" factor and some convenience display features. if that's worth an extra $2-3k to you, go for it.
 

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BUT, as I read & looked further, there are some things that require a subscription (XM traffic & such) after one year, to the tune of ~$260 annually. I'm wondering what this stuff actually is and is it worth a couple hundred bucks a year to maintain? Or should I just get a new off-the-shelf GPS device (like Garmin or Magellan, et. al.) for roughly $200 which stuff like traffic updates are included.]
This statement says you are the type who is hesitant in spending money on things you don't need (like myself). Then it is not worth it, in my opinion.

Premium Audio is something I was looking for, but was not available. I wanted it to save myself the pain of installing an aftermarket one. But after a few weeks of being stuck with base audio...I got used to it. More money saved. :D
 

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Very nice description of the NAV system's functions and features from rehabmax.

In Canada, it cost $3400 to add the NAV system to your car. I suppose if you are a saleman, or someone else who works out of their car, the $3400 is easy to justify. The navigation capability, and enhanced hands free phone, could be used daily.

For anyone else ... it's probably a case of having more dollars than sense.

Can anyone describe the hands free phone capabilities you get when you have bluetooth without the NAV system?
 

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Very nice description of the NAV system's functions and features from rehabmax.

In Canada, it cost $3400 to add the NAV system to your car. I suppose if you are a saleman, or someone else who works out of their car, the $3400 is easy to justify. The navigation capability, and enhanced hands free phone, could be used daily.

For anyone else ... it's probably a case of having more dollars than sense.

Can anyone describe the hands free phone capabilities you get when you have bluetooth without the NAV system?
i have BT connectivity without the NAV system. works fine - i have streaming audio as well as phone capability hooked up to an Android 2.2 smartphone (LG Optimus). there are very minor hiccups with the connection at the beginning but they are easy to work around. i also use a Garmin Nuvi 265WT GPS that i got for <$100 and includes traffic. btw, you still get the free XM satellite radio subscription (3-month? 6-month? not sure, but XM usually doesn't shut it off for ~1 year anyways). so my homemade "Nav package" cost me in total: $89+tax. :)
 

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i have BT connectivity without the NAV system. works fine - i have streaming audio as well as phone capability hooked up to an Android 2.2 smartphone (LG Optimus). there are very minor hiccups with the connection at the beginning but they are easy to work around. i also use a Garmin Nuvi 265WT GPS that i got for <$100 and includes traffic. btw, you still get the free XM satellite radio subscription (3-month? 6-month? not sure, but XM usually doesn't shut it off for ~1 year anyways). so my homemade "Nav package" cost me in total: $89+tax. :)
I'm kind of interested in what you can do with the hands free phone. Can you voice dial by number? Can you select contacts from your contact list? by voice? from the premium audio system? How about voice control of your music selections?

I haven't received my car yet, so I haven't had a chance to play with the SmartPhone connectivity. I know there is substantial voice control of your phone/music with the NAV system, but it isn't so clear what you can do with the basic bluetooth capability.
 

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I'm kind of interested in what you can do with the hands free phone. Can you voice dial by number? Can you select contacts from your contact list? by voice? from the premium audio system? How about voice control of your music selections?

I haven't received my car yet, so I haven't had a chance to play with the SmartPhone connectivity. I know there is substantial voice control of your phone/music with the NAV system, but it isn't so clear what you can do with the basic bluetooth capability.
there is voice control functionality for phone at least (but you cannot store contacts as there is no HardDrive) but i believe your phone must enable it since the car really just allows you to input voice via BT. but i will leave it to those who use such functions...personally, i have no need for it. i used to use it with my old Acura TL and it was very unreliable.
 

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Without nav each contact is entered individually.
Contact number first then you speak how you want to address that number eg

Call home, call audi4t etc.

Entry can be laborious if you have a lot of numbers but it works very well. The voice recognition is good.

The voice recognition is a feature of the cars blue tooth system. It doesn't use any vr that the phone may have.

The system also has 5 or 6 speed dial button capabilities.
 

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Nav or no Nav. Good question. Its down to personal choice and everyone will have their own view based on what's important to them.

My own view was that deciding on a car as advanced as the CT I though may as well kit it out accordngly. It is an expensive option and hits your wallet straight away however when you come to sell or trade in the car in the future (maybe for a CT1000H ;) ) it will be worth more and perhaps easier to sell.

We have a system called TMC which broadcasts traffic info over FM radio in UK. The sat nav picks this up and advises issues and re-routes. We don't have to pay for this service though as its free for everyone. If we did have to pay for this like the XM system described it would probably put me off a wee bit.

Choices Choices.
 

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I know a friend that has a Infinity w/ NAV...he can input a phone number (not sure if by voice or typing it in) and the NAV will pull up the address by phone number...does the CT NAV do that?
 
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