[j1stealth]

Hi all,
For those that have seen the lexus CT200H in person (through VIP event), can you tell if it's about the same size as the toyota matrix? and also, how's the rear seat space?
I have look at lexus website and toyota website and I see that the ct200h and the matrix have the exact same wheelbase and width. is the ct200h essentially the hybrid luxury version of matrix (in terms of size)?

Thanks.

 

[Thai]

Is it bigger than the Honda Fit or Ford Fiesta??

 

[jruhi4]

Hi all,
For those that have seen the lexus CT200H in person (through VIP event), can you tell if it's about the same size as the toyota matrix? and also, how's the rear seat space?
I have look at lexus website and toyota website and I see that the ct200h and the matrix have the exact same wheelbase and width. is the ct200h essentially the hybrid luxury version of matrix (in terms of size)?

Thanks.

While you are correct as far as Lexus CT and Matrix sharing the same wheelbase and width, the Lexus Press Brochure released at the Geneva Auto Show states in several places that the CT sits on an "all-new, dedicated platform".

My pet theory (which has been neither confirmed nor denied by Lexus officials) is that Lexus CT is the first vehicle to be produced on the next-generation Corolla/Matrix (and European Auris) platform.

By the way, rumors I've read suggest that Volkswagen/Audi has similar plans. Their next-generation so-called PDQ platform is expected to debut in its next-generation Audi A3 in a year or two and then work its way through other Skoda, SEAT and VW models such as the 7th-gen Golf (as many as 60 models may be spun off that platform).

 

[jruhi4]

Is it bigger than the Honda Fit or Ford Fiesta??

Yes. In international car size terms, Fit and Fiesta (and Toyota Yaris) are B-sized cars, while Lexus CT, Toyota Matrix and archrival Audi A3 are all the next size class up ("C").

 

[ct_rocket]

I haven't seen it in person yet but from the pictures, it does look bigger than a Honda Fit or Ford Fiesta for sure.

 

[Microcosm]

It is pretty close to the size of a Mazda 3, but ten inches shorter overall. Width, height and wheelbase are pretty close.

 

[LexusLove]

Its smaller than the mazda 3? You sure?

Edit

Its 14cm shorter, which is 5.5 inches and =)

 

[snakeye2669]

It lower then all the car listed, but the Mazda3. Total size it is the smallest.

 

[Mikedelo]

I'm just getting back from the dealer and it was one of my question also. What's the size of that trunk. I would sayr it's comparable with the one of a vibe, having an 05, but not as deep. So less cargo space.

But waht a car...

 

[Decipher]

Yes...What a car! If you haven't seen it in person, be warned. This car is truly compact! I owned a MazdaSpeed 3, which is what the CT has been most closely related to. I have tell you, with complete confidence, that the CT is smaller by an uncomfortable margin. My 2011 WRX actually has more rear seat space, which doesn't say all that much. I was hoping it would be on par with the WRX wagon, but I don't think it's close. From sitting in it at the Chicago Auto Show, both me and my GF were disappointed with the overall space. It was not only a lack of legroom in the rear seat, but a very narrow cabin as well. The CT also lacks rear seat cupholders AND a drop down center arm rest. I have to say, although we're still excited about getting our CT, we are quite disappointed. Truth be told, if it didn't get 44 MPG, we wouldn't even be considering the car still.

 

[Bob259]

Yes...What a car! If you haven't seen it in person, be warned. This car is truly compact! I owned a MazdaSpeed 3, which is what the CT has been most closely related to. I have tell you, with complete confidence, that the CT is smaller by an uncomfortable margin. My 2011 WRX actually has more rear seat space, which doesn't say all that much. I was hoping it would be on par with the WRX wagon, but I don't think it's close. From sitting in it at the Chicago Auto Show, both me and my GF were disappointed with the overall space. It was not only a lack of legroom in the rear seat, but a very narrow cabin as well. The CT also lacks rear seat cupholders AND a drop down center arm rest. I have to say, although we're still excited about getting our CT, we are quite disappointed. Truth be told, if it didn't get 44 MPG, we wouldn't even be considering the car still.

Agree, was a little smaller then I thought it would be and certainly in the rear seat seeing the wife's Prius has so much room in the back and certainly a LOT smaller then my Highlander, but lots of nice features to make up for the inconvenience compared to the Prius. Still trying to figure out where to put everything as the glove box is small as is the center console.

 

[Honeycombe]

Hi all,
For those that have seen the lexus CT200H in person (through VIP event), can you tell if it's about the same size as the toyota matrix? and also, how's the rear seat space?
I have look at lexus website and toyota website and I see that the ct200h and the matrix have the exact same wheelbase and width. is the ct200h essentially the hybrid luxury version of matrix (in terms of size)?

Thanks.

Here ya go (from Consumer Reports):


...............................CT200h Prius Matrix Fit Golf
Length 170 176 173 162 165
Width 70 69 70 67 70
Height 57 59 61 60 58

Front shoulder room
54 55 53 52.5 54
Cargo 14.0cf 3+1 23.5cf 2+2 25.5cf
Road clearance Unk. 4.5 6.0 4.5 4.5

Owner satisfaction (1 being poor – 5 being best)
n/a 4 1 4 4



The CT200h brochure gives specs, if you pick that up. Even though the cargo volume is measured differently for these models, if you Google them, you'll find standardized measurements. I believe the CT200h has the smallest cargo of all of these, incl. the Fit, with the seats down. I think.

 

[trove]

See Gallery pix of Pearl ct. Hubby is 6' 2" and I am 5'6"/ we fit fine. With the seat down to the bottom he has about 2 inches of headroom. I fit fine in the back, but there is hardly any knee room and it would be tight for 6 footer. We love it!

 

[corrado_mr2]

CT - 89 cu ft passenger space; 14 cu ft cargo.

Mazda3, Impreza, Matrix/Vibe - 94-95 cu ft passenger; 16-20 cu ft cargo.

On paper and feel (as I've owned it), overall it's very similar to a current gen IS - I describe it as "cozy". I'm 5'9", 185lbs. So yes, CT is smaller and you do notice it, but it's not meant to be a family hauler like the 3 or Impreza are originally designed to be (family sedan platforms on longer wheelbases). You'll still be able to comfortably fit four adults under 6ft in the CT, but as long as the driver is comfortable and you don't need to haul others very often while saving gobs on gas, who cares right!

 

[Decipher]

^True. The CT isn't designed as a family car, necessarily. We are purchasing with the intention of having at least one child with it until the rest of the auto industry gets their act together and starts producing fuel efficient vehicles. That being said, I have very vaild concerns about fitting a child seat and gear in this car. I went in open minded, and was a little disappointed. But, as I said before, that isn't deterring us from getting it!

 

[Quentin]

^True. The CT isn't designed as a family car, necessarily. We are purchasing with the intention of having at least one child with it until the rest of the auto industry gets their act together and starts producing fuel efficient vehicles. That being said, I have very vaild concerns about fitting a child seat and gear in this car. I went in open minded, and was a little disappointed. But, as I said before, that isn't deterring us from getting it!

I'd also like to know about a rear facing child seat. My wife and I will probably have our first (and likely only) kid sometime next year and I don't want to turn around and have to sell the CT because we can't get a child seat in there. We can always take my 4Runner, but that kind of defeats the purpose of having an efficient car.

 

[PhoenixINX]

I'd also like to know about a rear facing child seat. My wife and I will probably have our first (and likely only) kid sometime next year and I don't want to turn around and have to sell the CT because we can't get a child seat in there. We can always take my 4Runner, but that kind of defeats the purpose of having an efficient car.

In the center rear you should be okay, but forget about being either directly behind the driver or passenger and allowing them ANY legroom.

I had an `07 G35 sedan when our son was still in a rear facing seat, and my ONLY option was in the center.

 

[Bob259]

Bring the child seat to the dealers and try it.... I think it will fit fine.

 

[Team Lexus]

I think it will also be fine to put in a child seat. I tested our forward facing RECARO ProSport (a bulky seat) and it was ok not in the middle. Obviously the middle position would be more spacious and I think it would work.

I'm trying to convince a co-worker here to get a CT200h. She has an FX35 and 2 kids. I keep telling her, just make the space-issue work. The few times you need the space, use your intelligence and make it fit. The rest of the time you're daily commuting by yourself......enjoy the fuel economy!