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I might be picking up JDM headlights. One of the reasons for this is one I want the side clear reflector and two I'm doing a projector retrofit to my existing headlights so I'd be taking the guts out of the headlights anyways...

What I am not sure about is about the JDM/EU headlights. In the US our reflectors are orange and we have amber LEDS behind that. Do the JDM/EU market also have amber leds behind the clear sidemarker or is there nothing there? However, if the actual headlight doesn't have the amber leds behind the reflector then my first plan is sending my orange reflectors out to be made in clear. But I figured if getting JDM headlights saves me a step or two and time then even better.

Note I am specifically asking for the NON LED version of the headlight.

US Spec looks like this:

Automotive parking light Automotive lighting Hood Automotive design Headlamp

At night:
Automotive parking light Automotive lighting Hood Automotive tail & brake light Grille


EU/JDM: Notice clear reflector but for the life of me I can't find a night picture of anything illuminated there?
Hood Automotive lighting Vehicle Motor vehicle Automotive tire



Can anyone that's not from the USA confirm if their clear sidemarker has leds behind it or if anything gets lit up that is circle?

Thanks,
-Nigel
 

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I might be picking up JDM headlights. One of the reasons for this is one I want the side clear reflector and two I'm doing a projector retrofit to my existing headlights so I'd be taking the guts out of the headlights anyways...

What I am not sure about is about the JDM/EU headlights. In the US our reflectors are orange and we have amber LEDS behind that. Do the JDM/EU market also have amber leds behind the clear sidemarker or is there nothing there? However, if the actual headlight doesn't have the amber leds behind the reflector then my first plan is sending my orange reflectors out to be made in clear. But I figured if getting JDM headlights saves me a step or two and time then even better.

Note I am specifically asking for the NON LED version of the headlight.

US Spec looks like this:

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At night:
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EU/JDM: Notice clear reflector but for the life of me I can't find a night picture of anything illuminated there?
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Can anyone that's not from the USA confirm if their clear sidemarker has leds behind it or if anything gets lit up that is circle?

Thanks,
-Nigel
Mine's a JDM here in Australia. Absolutely nothing there mate. Just a clear reflector.
 

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Mine's a JDM here in Australia. Absolutely nothing there mate. Just a clear reflector.
Much appreciated! You just saved me a ton of headaches buying JDM headlights. In the USA we are required to have amber light coming out somewhere on the bumper/headlight...etc. So this would not pass inspection where I live.

Going to go with Plan A and after I open the headlights up send out my orange reflector to be made in clear just like the EU/JDM spec, but I'll have amber leds under the reflector so it will not be an issue, just a much cleaner look!


AFAIK, only the USA market requires front or rear side lights.
After scouring FB on pictures, it appears that way. Not mad actually, kinda glad I didn't jump the gun and buy JDM headlights to only realize that they can't be used, plus I'd have to swap the projectors anyways since they are rhd beam pattern.

Picture just for reference that I found.
Yellow circles show the headlight and foglight on. Red circle shows no side marker light where we would have amber shining through in the US.
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You might want to double check if having an amber/yellow bulb is enough to pass inspection where your vehicle is registered as generally it needs to reflect amber/yellow regardless if the bulb is on or off. Much like the rear of the vehicle where it must have a red reflector not just a red blub.
 

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Technically there should be an amber reflector of any vehicle sold in the USA per DOT. However, in VA every time I've gotten our other cars inspected as long as there is amber light coming out you will pass.

For example. We have a w211 MB e350. On the bumper it came with orange side marker reflectors with an orange bulb. I changed the reflector to a smoked version, but the bulb was still amber.
It failed. The inspector said the following. There has to be orange light being emitted from the front of the car and no reflector can be tinted/smoke in color. The reflector can be orange or clear but the light coming out has to be orange. If you have an orange reflector but white light, you will fail. If you have a smoked lens, it's a fail because it doesn't let the amber light come out as it should... IE too dark.
On the MB there's actually zero amber at all in the actual headlight itself, only on the side bumper. A lot of German cars are like this. Porsche especially with having no amber at all in their headlights, strictly on the front/side bumper..

Porsche owners do this all the time and Porsche actually makes a clear side marker that has amber leds in it. Most people that buy them swap them out at purchase.

I don't foresee having an issue. But I'll still keep my amber reflectors after I get the clear ones made. Good thing with the CT is the amber side marker light is pretty bright. So with a clear side marker reflector it will probably be brighter when it's on compared to being filtered by the amber reflector.

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This is actually a very good discussion, and I'm glad you thought of it. Since as you know, I was almost entirely set on doing exactly this, with getting some JDM lights for the white reflector to use it in my lights. But I didn't, since it would have been a huge cost for no real reason, and I really wanted it to look stock and not be "illegal". Now I'm glad I didn't go that option, since I never even thought of it. Of course, I thought the LEDs were white under the orange reflector lol. Didn't find out until I opened them. But you can even see the difference on the orange vs white. The orange has a "strip" of clearer area where there is no reflector, so the LEDs can shine out. The white/clear version is just solid reflector.

Since you have inspections, I would double check first about the orange reflector. I've never had any trouble with eliminating reflectors before on any part of the vehicle, but I'm in MD where we don't have the inspections. But even when I'd get pulled over for other things, nobody ever gave me any issue with reflectors. I always changed ambers to white, or just removed add-on reflector lights entirely.

On the MB there's actually zero amber at all in the actual headlight itself, only on the side bumper. A lot of German cars are like this. Porsche especially with having no amber at all in their headlights, strictly on the front/side bumper..
Yes, that's because amber is not required in Euro spec. So, it is easier for them (as euro-centered auto maker) to just put some add-on lights on the bumper for USA.
 

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Yep should be fine with inspections here. Like I said I've done it on other vehicles that we own and as long as the light is amber shining through, they don't give it a second thought. The nice thing with the mold that would be done is it's going to be a 1 to 1 so however the orange reflector looks, the clear should look just like it. So there should still be that opening albeit a clear part now, but it will look just like the amber.

I might have a couple sets made just incase someone wants to buy a pair. I figure the only time someone would want to swap is doing a projector retrofit or changing something in the headlight, at which point when you bake it, you might as well clean up the headlight and make it look nicer. I don't even know the cost yet. I was trying to buy a set of used ct headlights for cheap because I could then take it apart and do the reflectors while I wait here in winter and also figure out the best way to mount the ballast under the headlight... but we'll see. I'm trying not to let this keep escalating in price..lol

But totally agree. I'm glad I didn't rash and buy the JDM headlights, would have been more work and in the end not able to make it work.

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I might have a couple sets made just incase someone wants to buy a pair.
I'll have it in mind to get a pair if there are extras and it works out. I was immediately miffed with my set of head lights because I put in the M-LED 2.0 right before the upgraded the projector lens to have the blue tint. And since nothing lasts forever, I figure I'll be opening the lights eventually for some reason. So if that happens, then I'd have the clear reflectors on hand to put in.
 
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