[cls]

Earlier this week I ordered a 2012 CT touring model in sliver (it was tough deciding between white, silver, black or granite!). I was told I could have a 2011 by late August/early September or wait another month and get a 2012. Specs wise I was told the only difference for the 2012 model would be the display in the nav package. As I only have to wait one more month I opted for a 2012.

I ordered my CT from the Lexus dealer in Calgary. I was able to negotiate $500 off the 2011 MSRP and a free 3M paint protection package. I was surprised to get anything off sticker price considering they have no vehicles in stock with a limited supply coming and there is no other competition in Calgary.

I was wondering if any Canadians out there have attempted to bring in a CT from the USA? My vehicle cost $36842 after all taxes, freight and discounts. The same vehicle in the USA is about $2000 less on MSRP . This does not take into consideration the stronger Canadian currency. My salesman justified the difference in that they have to build the Canadian vehicles with more insulation, heavy duty starters and heavy duty batteries in comparison to the USA models. I don't buy this. If he told me Lexus sells more vehicles in California than in all of Canada I could understand the difference in price based on buying power, but $2000 for insulation and a bigger battery sounds a bit steep.

Any how, after a number of test drives I can't wait to get my car!

 

[Dirvin]

I ordered a 2012 as well and was told the production line changes at the end of August.

What s different in the display on the nav? I'm hoping for an arm rest myself.

 

[darkride]

Maybe its just me, but I'm not of big stature. Only 5'9 and the armrest already is there and comfy for me. It all depends on how you sit I guess. With me sitting and my elbow on cusion, my hand is right over top of the mouse.

 

[cls]

I ordered a 2012 as well and was told the production line changes at the end of August.

What s different in the display on the nav? I'm hoping for an arm rest myself.

I haven't seen the nav display in a CT as the test model did not have it, but I was told the screen can flip up and tuck away as opposed to being fixed in place like it is now.

 

[Dirvin]

Were you given any info on colors?

 

[darkride]

I haven't seen the nav display in a CT as the test model did not have it, but I was told the screen can flip up and tuck away as opposed to being fixed in place like it is now.

What do you mean fixed in place like it is now? The 2011 model comes with the Nav flipping up from top of middle console. It has open/close/tilt features and is not touchscreen as you have to use the mouse-control.

Here is what 2011 nav looks like

I think he was referring to the display having a different interface, like an updated better look.

 

[Dirvin]

Found this online. Not sure if it's valid, plus I don't have a 2011 for comparison.

AutoSpies - 2012 Lexus CT200h - Detroit Auto Show, New York Auto Show, Las Vegas SEMA Auto Shows

 

[cls]

Were you given any info on colors?

I was told the color options are the same for the 2012 vs 2011 model in Canada and there is no info on a F sport model at this time. The only change is the model year. But who knows, maybe the sales guy simply slapped 2012 on a 2011 spec sheet but hearing that there are no changes to the 2012 line up isn't a big surprise.

 

[cls]

What do you mean fixed in place like it is now? The 2011 model comes with the Nav flipping up from top of middle console. It has open/close/tilt features and is not touchscreen as you have to use the mouse-control.

Here is what 2011 nav looks like

I think he was referring to the display having a different interface, like an updated better look.

You're right. I was obviously mistaken with what I said.

 

[Tonic]

I order exactly the same touring in silver and waiting for a 2012 instead.

I have a white Prius 2010 and would love another white but mostly all Ct sold are white.....here in Montreal !

 

[YOW]

I was at my dealer this afternoon. My sales guy told me that the 2012 prices are increasing $50 from the current 2011 prices. Hope this doesn't break the bank for you procrastinators.

 

[David Gershon]

Hi YOW, Did the dealer tell you what are the differences between the 2011 and 2012 models ?

 

[YOW]

The sales guy wasn't exactly sure what changes were coming for 2012. Although he indicated that the 2012s would initially be very simlilar to the 2011s.

 

[Dirvin]

I ordered a 2012 with no clear idea of the differences.

Since I would gladly have had my hands on a 2011, it doesn't really matter. Does seem odd though, I can't 100% visualize what my car is going to look like. I'm really glad there isn't a big price jump.

Since they are aware of the arm rest issue and have made a right hand solution, I hope that's fixed. It's the only thing I noticed in the test drive that I was less than pleased with. If not, maybe a left hand piece will come about. Already, I wish I had ordered the illuminated door sills. I looked at my RX and was surprised to see that I had them and had never noticed so I didn't bother. I had in my head they would be stainless, just not lighted. Guess I'll be adding that later.

I wonder if there are any more goodies in the 2012 I will wish I ordered.

 

[SCT1984]

I was wondering if any Canadians out there have attempted to bring in a CT from the USA? My vehicle cost $36842 after all taxes, freight and discounts. The same vehicle in the USA is about $2000 less on MSRP . This does not take into consideration the stronger Canadian currency. My salesman justified the difference in that they have to build the Canadian vehicles with more insulation, heavy duty starters and heavy duty batteries in comparison to the USA models. I don't buy this. If he told me Lexus sells more vehicles in California than in all of Canada I could understand the difference in price based on buying power, but $2000 for insulation and a bigger battery sounds a bit steep.

what a load of crap - he's saying that buffalo doesn't get the same temps and snowfalls as toronto??

as far as price - totally worth it. With NAV, CDN is just over 39,000... with NAV in the US, is 33,415 (much cheaper destination charges, etc, and that is taking into consideration today's exchange)....plus don't forget to add 6.1% duty since the car isn't manufactured in North America... total, just less than $35,500... so that's about $3500 less... but that's not including state tax either... and not including any shipping/customs brokerage fees, etc.

Now that may not include LED headlamps, etc... but who cares. Problem is, I inquired about the same thing at a few dealers in the US, and they can only sell USED cars to canadian citizens, otherwise, for new cars, you need a US address and US insurance - I was also told that was across the board for Lexus USA... ****ty.

 

[YOW]

what a load of crap - he's saying that buffalo doesn't get the same temps and snowfalls as toronto??

as far as price - totally worth it. With NAV, CDN is just over 39,000... with NAV in the US, is 33,415 (much cheaper destination charges, etc, and that is taking into consideration today's exchange)....plus don't forget to add 6.1% duty since the car isn't manufactured in North America... total, just less than $35,500... so that's about $3500 less... but that's not including state tax either... and not including any shipping/customs brokerage fees, etc.

Now that may not include LED headlamps, etc... but who cares. Problem is, I inquired about the same thing at a few dealers in the US, and they can only sell USED cars to canadian citizens, otherwise, for new cars, you need a US address and US insurance - I was also told th
at was across the board for Lexus USA... ****ty.

A lot depends on which options are important to you. The organization of the packages is very different between Canada and the US.

For example, it can be less expensive to get a car with memory seats in Canada, because memory seats come on the intermediate premium version in Canada, but you have to order the top-of-the line version to get memory seats in the US

If NAV is the imporatant feature, and other perks don't matter .... then order the car in the US.